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 No.475318[Last 50 Posts]

@ house finn
how come you used to be str8 edge and vegan and you're a carnist alcomaxxer now

 No.475321

>house finn
literally who

 No.475322

oh you mean Kotia

>how come you used to be str8 edge and vegan and you're a carnist alcomaxxer now

trannies can't think logically, don't try to make sense of them

 No.475328

>>475322
but logical thinking is the only process through which a straight edge vegan can become a carnist alcowinner

 No.475329

>>475328
carnist = good
alcohol = bad

 No.475330

>>475329
1) Correct.
2) Incorrect.

 No.475331

>>475330
>2) Incorrect.
The Golden One and EdgeMaster disagree.

 No.475333

Soy and alcohol may reduce testosterone.

 No.475339

>>475333
Excellent.

 No.475343

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Is gnu a carnist? I don't think gnu has said anything about it tbh.

 No.475346

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also gnu wasn't str8 edge ever, i remember gnem talking about meeting people @ bar and all that many years ago

 No.475371

gnu blown my mind so hard i become rational

 No.475378

>>475343
it will happen to you too

 No.475386

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>>475378
what will happen now

 No.475387

even all the animals that are carnist are better than the ones who are not

 No.475396

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>>475387
elephants aren't carnist

neither are gorillas

 No.475409

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>>475396
sure whatever.. but humans would not have evolved into human if it wasnt for cooked meat, which made them develop the intelligent brain

also the moral position of animals have feelings too is kinda wrong

and first of all why exactly is dead bad?

second the average cow doesnt really care, he doesnt wonder about career path or dream how he is gonna spend his pension, so on and so on. average thought of cow is something like god i love grass.

third and the last point: even if all human would become vegan, then even then some smartass would start talking how we must teach carnist animals to become vegan too, or how plants cannot be eaten cus their alive. its just how people are, they adapt a life style which they think are morally superior to feel above others. but in the end not even dying matters

 No.475419

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>>475409
>sure whatever.. but humans would not have evolved into human if it wasnt for cooked meat, which made them develop the intelligent brain

doesn't really justify eating meat today, even if this was true in the stone age you don't need meat to evolve intelligent brain in this day and age

>also the moral position of animals have feelings too is kinda wrong


uhhhh… what? Do you think animal cruelty is ok because the "moral position of animals have feelings is wrong"? Is torturing dogs for entertainment good in your world?

>and first of all why exactly is dead bad?


Because you, and them would much rather be alive.

>second the average cow doesnt really care, he doesnt wonder about career path or dream how he is gonna spend his pension, so on and so on. average thought of cow is something like god i love grass.


doesn't really justify it either, if there's a human being who's average thought is god i love grass it would be equally wrong to slaughter him for meat

>third and the last point: even if all human would become vegan, then even then some smartass would start talking how we must teach carnist animals to become vegan too, or how plants cannot be eaten cus their alive. its just how people are, they adapt a life style which they think are morally superior to feel above others. but in the end not even dying matters


You don't have to go to extreme for it to count. Its about reasonable actions people can do to go into the right direction. There actually already are fruitarians, who don't eat plants that require the killing of the plant. I don't have anything against them and I've never heard them scold normal vegans or vegetarians for not being hardcore enough.

 No.475423


 No.475424

>>475423
U hungry?)

 No.475426

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>>475423
What was that for?

 No.475427

what animal are you ?
me lion

>>475424
yeah

 No.475429

>>475427
sigma lion

 No.475431

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 No.475432

>>475419
>if there's a human being who's average thought is god i love grass it would be equally wrong to slaughter him for meat
disagree.

 No.475436

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>>475419
the animals that are carnists literally WON

also everything is alive, even if you ate rocks there is living stuff on it

some plants are poisonous literally because they developed defense mechanism against being eaten

the human as a animal is carnist, and you become low energy and unhealthy if you are vegan. you dont tell cat not to eat meat unless you are mentally ill, so why are you telling so to other people

 No.475446

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>>475436
>the animals that are carnists literally WON

The only animal that has "won" is human, which is omnivore that can function perfectly well with vegan diet. When it comes to other animals there's really no distinction between if elephants or wolves are winning more.

>also everything is alive, even if you ate rocks there is living stuff on it


This is exaggerated all-or-nothing thinking. I draw the line at conscious animals that are capable of suffering.

>some plants are poisonous literally because they developed defense mechanism against being eaten


Same stuff about being conscious and capable of suffering. The most simple bacteria have self-defense mechanisms as well. You don't have to go to ridiculous lengths for "it to count", just do what seems reasonable to reduce unnecessary suffering.

Extra fact: I don't actually see any ethical problem with eating oysters, but choose don't eat them anyways.

>the human as a animal is carnist,


Omnivore.

>and you become low energy and unhealthy if you are vegan.


Definitely not true, you have to think about eating a bit more but being high energy healthy vegan is 100% doable.

>you dont tell cat not to eat meat unless you are mentally ill, so why are you telling so to other people


Cats are carnivores, humans are not.

 No.475450

>>475446
hey kasey

 No.475454

>>475446
civilizations with rich diet have always been more smart and powerful than those with bad diet

it only takes few generation of veganism and you will be india tier where people live worse than animals

meanwhile in civilizations like finland where we eat liver and foods made from pure blood are 1000% times more intelligent and successful

ancient europeans developed better immunity and metabolism and become healthier just from couple of generations of milk drinking, meanwhile average dying suffering brown people cant even digest it

richer diet is better, omnivore is even more superior to herbivores and carnivores, but the weakest of them all is herbivore, their common characteristic is low intelligence and ability to run and hide

 No.475473

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>>475454
>civilizations with rich diet have always been more smart and powerful than those with bad diet

We live in modern day where you can plan your vegan diet to be as healthy if not healthier than carnist diet. Some pre-modern civilizational greateness graphs don't really extrapolate to modern days, before the industrial era for example, empires with lots of slaves were the most powerful ones, that doesn't mean anything today.

>meanwhile in civilizations like finland where we eat liver and foods made from pure blood are 1000% times more intelligent and successful


Fun that you compare India, an actual empire before the British came, to Finland that was Africa tier in development until modern times.

>ancient europeans developed better immunity and metabolism and become healthier just from couple of generations of milk drinking, meanwhile average dying suffering brown people cant even digest it


Yeah, meat eating was nutritionally better than veganism in the stone age. Does this justify carnism today?

A lot has changed in the last 100 years alone. For most of human history going to the doctor for example was a very bad idea for your longevity, but not anymore.

>richer diet is better,


Sure.

>omnivore is even more superior to herbivores and carnivores,


In strict paleolithic environment. But in modern environment, and in a western nations in general a vegan who know what they're doing is healthier than the average omnivore and has longer lifespan as well.

>but the weakest of them all is herbivore, their common characteristic is low intelligence and ability to run and hide


Yeah like the gorilla, hippopotamus, elephant, panda, and rhinoceros.

 No.475569

gnu = shit
Get Over It.
(YOLO)

 No.475571

>>475424
Yes.
(YOLO)

 No.475572

>>475473
how come you cope so much
(YOLO)

 No.475670

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>>475473
1. no you cant plan it, you are literally coping. it will always be bad and you end up being uncultured in food, because all the best food from all around world is carnist food. food is supposed to be like the way most people eat it. sure you can live @ your modernity bubble, but real people eat cultured 1000 year old traditional foods while vegans cope with fake burger.
2. lmao comparing like 100 million people to one mil, you think india was some communist utopia where everyone were richer than average finn, cringe. also they outnumbered the brits, why are brits to be blamed for the loss of their "great" empire.
3. you dont need "justification" for meat eating, its more healthy and always will be. every vegan i know irl have stopped being vegan as theyve grown older. its just matter of time, i guess veganism is just being immature.
4.
5. cope
6. cope examples

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 No.475696

>>475454
Okay I was on one month break but this post is so retarded that I had to reply. Most vegetarians in India are the high castes. The higher castes have an average IQ of 120-150 depends on how you define them. They rely on dairy products for protein. People who live worse than animals are the ones killing the animals. They are considered avarna due to their subhuman behaviour and lack of conscience.
The success of Europeans can be attributed a myriad of things other than the supposed superiority.

 No.475697

>>475696
>oh noes you can't kill the animals you must let them all die from disease and predation instead of a better death at the hands of humans

 No.475698

>>475697
if you eat meat, you are no better than the lowliest of murderers
carnist bloodmouths are so fucking pathetic

 No.475699

>>475697
I'm non-vegetarian you Dingus. I don't care about animals. I was refuting the claim that vegetarians are subhumans.

 No.475700

Read this if you're unironically vegan
https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/vegan

 No.475701

>>475698
>not being a murderer chad

Why you so afraid to banish people back to the astral planes?

 No.475725

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>>475670
So your argument boils down to "I like it more". Like a dog torturer who defends his cruelty by saying that it gives him satisfaction.

If you're on the same line as zoosadists then so be it, but I choose a different road.

 No.475726

>>475725
based ! based ! based !

 No.475728

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>vegan metaphysics

 No.475729

>>475725
hur dur basic human needs is same as torture

whatever man

 No.475730

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 No.475732

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>>475729
carnism isn't a basic human need

its not even necessary for basic health

you're confusing carnism with eating in general

 No.475734

>>475732
its one animal vs other

completely normal

 No.475735

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>>475734
really?

you're there hunting elks in the forests every time you eat meat?

there is no "vs". its retarded to compare humans who can reason and make choices with other animals

 No.475736

y'all aint ready to hear furmod dropping these truthbombs

 No.475737

all animals die
being killed and eaten by a rational being is the best possible way an animal could die

 No.475738

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>>475737
all people die also
yet no one is arguing that being killed and eaten by a "rational person" is the best possible way for a human being to die

this whole thread is just carnist cope

 No.475739

>>475735
>its retarded to compare humans who can reason and make choices with other animals
>>475738
>compares humans who can reason and make choices with other animals

lol

 No.475742

wont read this threda carefully enough too see whats being discussed but i could use a burger with buffalo mozzarella right now

 No.475743

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>>475739
Compare in terms of agency that is, animals don't have a moral compass, reasoning, culture and language like we do, we can choose to act otherwise if we wish, animals cannot.

But even ignoring all that, your "best possible way" argument is bullcrap. Animals would much prefer not to be killed by a "rational being" and will do anything in their power to prevent that from happening.

 No.475744

>>475742
Mamma mia

 No.475745

>>475743
I know what you mean retard, that doesn't change the fact you made two totally contradictory statements 20 mimutes apart
eat some beef dude your reasoning faculties aren't working

what an animal's instinct "prefers" has literally no bearing on what is best for the animal
all meaning exists through man

 No.475746

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>>475745
So your argument is that its the "best way" because you said it was, clear evidence that the animal tries to avoid it by all means and the fact that it leads to its immediate death means nothing.

Sorry that I'm not that convinced of your reasoning.

 No.475747

>>475746
A meaningful death is better than a meaningless one
Animals will also avoid life-saving medicine by all means

 No.475748

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>>475747
>A meaningful death
Being raised in a factory farm, dying so some fat american can have his burger.

>is better than a meaningless one

Living in the wild free, doing what comes naturally to your species and dying of natural causes.

Ok.

>Animals will also avoid life-saving medicine by all means


Because they don't know its life-saving medicine. Also life-saving medicine saves their lives instead of killing them.

 No.475749

>>475748
There is no meaning except through man. Without human consciousness animals wouldn't even exist as ontological entities

 No.475755

no matter how you twist it, life is eat or be eaten. having brain and meat over your bones doesnt make your life form more worthy than the one of plants.

 No.475757

>>475749
SPSCarter: There is no meaning except through horse

 No.475758

imagine 100 000 years of your ancestors herding reindeer for meat, hunting moose in the woods, clubbing seals for blubber

genes filtered throughout the generation adapting their bodies to be carnistmaxxed

then u decide ur gonna live on soy and avocado

Fortune
The so-called "desktop metaphor" of today's workstations is instead an
"airplane-seat" metaphor. Anyone who has shuffled a lap full of papers while
seated between two portly passengers will recognize the difference -- one can
see only a very few things at once.
- Fred Brooks, Jr.

 No.475763

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Totally a philosophical zombie

 No.475764

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TEEMEEEEEEEE

 No.475765

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Mental correlates for noxious stimuli? Not for this boy.

 No.475766

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He was known for having NO MENTAL CONCEPTS

 No.475768

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Ontology so painfully different there's no place for feeling sweet in it

 No.475770

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Perplexed and lost before what has an obvious explanation? No human has ever been like this

 No.475791


 No.475792

>>475770
so cute

 No.475793

>>475770
gotta check them ears

 No.475795

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 No.475798

>>475755
but doesn't it mean that if you know better, you should do what you can to avoid unnecessary suffering and death ?

 No.475799

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>>475798
but its not unnecessary suffering

and why act adam you arent even vegan

 No.475802

>>475799
it is, though, people can get all of their nutritional needs without it

 No.475803

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>>475799
"Torturing dogs for fun doesn't cause unnecessary suffering because I'm enjoying it."

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>>475802
yeah if you eat 1kg of pills everyday

 No.475805

>>475803
who the &%¤# said anything about any torture

 No.475806

Guys i love to eat steak nom nom nom tasty

 No.475807

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MEAT is King bitches Why Are You So Stupid? We Are Ready Kill All Animal No Mercy.
(YOLO)

 No.475808

>>475803
It's Not Unnecessary, The Dog Tastes Better Afterwards.
(YOLO)

 No.475809

>>475806
You Are Me.
(YOLO)

 No.475813

the logic of vegans is that if you eat animal products you support torture and bad factory conditions

veganism is literal mental illness and a cope

 No.475815

kc

 No.475816

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>>475813
Its just unnecessary suffering.

>>475804
Let's say that you had torture animals to stay healthy, but there's a pill you can take instead and stay just as healthy. Wouldn't it be ethical to take the pill instead of inflicting torture?


Also the mods started deleting my posts so I can't continue answering questions anymore.

 No.475818

>>475816
wow you use technology? did you know that the components are made in china using child labor and extremely bad factory conditions

just stop using technology its not necessary for you to live

 No.475819

>>475816
EdgeMaster's rule of thumb: if u didnt do it yourself, it werent real
if you will say "perhaps they arent going easy on those doggos dogies in YuLin" i will reply that YuLin has Best Dog
(YOLO)

 No.475820

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>>475818
Becoming a vegan =/= dropping out of society completely and living as a hermit in the woods without technology.

Try to have some sense of proportion. Veganism isn't even that hard in the end, like I don't even have to think about it 99% of time.

>>475819
EdgeMaster's rule:

1. It didn't happen
2. They deserved it

 No.475821

>>475818
you can't reasonably abstain from technology in today's world, but you can from meat

we can't control other people's, businesses', governments' actions, only our own

 No.475822

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>>475820
veganism is miserable af

i was vegan stupido

 No.475823

>>475820
Best Rule.
SIGMA EdgeMaster wouldn't be possible without meat and all so called "suffering" is liberal propaganda. They Want To Take Meat From Us, We Will Fight Back. 88.
(YOLO)

 No.475824

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>>475821
how do you even know that cows dont agree with cozy predator free farm life?

yeah they die but its still easier than in finnish wilderness where they would go extinct after one winter

same with chickens and etc

if they could choose they wouldnt mind staying @ the farm

 No.475825

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>>475822
lol no

learn 2 cook

 No.475827

>>475825
even vegan food you buy from restaurant is bad

you dont know cus youve been vegan for too long and are uncapable to understand real food

 No.475828

>>475825
ewww shittiest food i ever see no no we hate it you can have we will eat like king

 No.475829

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>>475824
>cozy predator free farm life

>>475827
this was true(ish) in the past when cooks thought kasvispihvi was what vegans wanted to eat

there's been a lot of progress in the last 5 years and now vegan restaurant food is much better

even carnists have mostly moved to oatly oat milk in kofi instead of cow milk

 No.475830

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>>475829
oatly milk is &%¤#ing disgusting

my mom prefers it because his stomach cant handle milk

 No.475831

>>475830
your mom is a male ?

 No.475832

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>>475828
and i eat like an emperor (and hilter)

>>475831
don't be a bigot

 No.475833

>>475831
dont get the joke

 No.475835

edit: wow this blew up

edit 2: wow stranger thanks for the reddit gold!

edit 3: some really nasty comments, ouch, oof, that's a yikes from me

 No.475836

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>>475833
feeling that bovine spongiform encephalopathy hitting in

 No.475837

>>475835
edit: downvotes?! REALLY??!!! I didn't expect much from reddit but wow… this is something else

 No.475845

>>475829
ok. how will buying vegan burger will plunge slaughter house into despair?
its impossible to lower the suffering in any way, not even meaningful
(YOLO)

 No.475847

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>>475845
You refuse to actively take part in it.

Obviously your individual choices matter little in the end (kinda like voting) but if enough people do it then it starts to have an effect.

Also I really need to go to do real life stuff now. Toodles!~

 No.475851

>>475847
yeah in other words it doesnt matter and cows dont even care

thread ended with: vegans: 0 carnists: 1000

 No.475856

>>475847
why do you believe that if everyone or at least many people would buy vegan burger the slaughter houses would disappear?
the only meaningful way to "fight" "suffering" is dont do any yourself.
but yeahhhh, take for example belarus. they had protests gathering so many people, but they didn't do at all. so your religion is on par with those peaceful protest, very useless.
(YOLO)

 No.475859

gonna have prime rib for thanksgiving :DDD

 No.475861

we aren't exploiting animals, we're at war with them (and we are winning)

 No.475873

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>>475851
i know you're being silly now but i still love you

xoxo

 No.475874

>>475873
ty just ty….

 No.475875


 No.475876

nature is predicated on the act of murder

one might not have to kill to eat, but it's like saying one does not have to dress in blue

it's a morally irrelevant suggestion

 No.475877

morality aka not real

moralfaggotry is motivated by dopamine releases activated by being a whiny loser who interacts with the world by pressing keys on a computer and making ironic jokes 85% of the time they talk

 No.475886

>>475877
me life built on moralfaggotry



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